turns out he sent packages to anderson cooper and to chris matthews of the i'm checking the mail now to see if we got something. we'll give you more details about that case and we caught fox news on a different lie. we'll tell you about that later tonight on theyoungturks.com when we do a whole different online show. check it out at youtube.com/tyt. "viewpoint" is next. >> john: karl rove is at war with the tea party and as soon as karl heard about it, out of sheer force of habit,'s plied for deference. drones can be use in the case of imminent danger but imminence no longer means imminence. meaning klingons can be called imminent. >> watching john brennan dodge that question about waterboarding today was nothing short of torture. today is the birthday of the late charles dickens, laura ingalls wilder and chris rock and on this date 48 years ago the beatles arrived in america ushering an era of rock n' roll gratins that lasted until 1990 when rock n' roll died when rolling stone called new kids on the block the new fab five. never forget this is "viewpoint." >> john: geek, i'm john f